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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 22:13:41 GMT -5
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Post by bigphisig on Jan 26, 2011 10:27:26 GMT -5
Is there a way to get more information on this? I am interested but what are their salaries and contract years I am stuck with them if someone puts in a claim? Also how do we put in a claim if we wanted too?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 10:49:15 GMT -5
Is there a way to get more information on this? I am interested but what are their salaries and contract years I am stuck with them if someone puts in a claim? Also how do we put in a claim if we wanted too? Manny Ramirez $9.3M 2011 Lance Berkman $11.8M 2011 Carlos Quentin $12.9 2013 If you claim them and have the cap space you own them at their current contract. If a team with a worse record from the season before puts in a claim they are awarded the claim. I think it is 24 hours but need to make sure, basically if you want them put in a claim on them. |
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Post by bigphisig on Jan 26, 2011 11:12:57 GMT -5
Sorry I am asking so many questions but this is my 1st year with waivers and matches. So after they get thru waivers what happens to them? Can they still be traded or cut? Do they get any cheaper if another team picks them up after they are cut? Or can money be traded with them in a trade? Like I trade a prospect to him for manny and he eats 5 mil of it and I eat the rest? I looked under the rules tab but nothing is printed there for rules. Thank you for your help.
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Post by DC Vipers on Jan 26, 2011 12:00:19 GMT -5
Hi Josh. No Problem. After they go through waivers, if nobody claims them they can be traded. They don't get any cheaper. I don't think you can trade money in a trade, but you can ask them to take back bad contracts if you have any. But I don't think there is a mechanism to allow him to just say he will eat $5 mil.
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Post by stevenweston on Jan 26, 2011 12:07:53 GMT -5
To add on to this subject.
If a guy is waived, as in released to FA, the original team is still on the hook for the contract correct?
And if so if then when that player is signed the original team is still on the hook for the money minus whatever he signs for elsewhere correct?
For example lets use Manny above. If he was released (which I don't think is what is happening I think hes just being moved to paid minors) Blackie would still be on the hook in 2011 for the 9.3 mil. In FA the bidding occurs and he signs with someone for 3 million. Blackie would then still be on the hook for 6.3 mil correct?
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Post by Greenville Drive on Jan 26, 2011 12:13:52 GMT -5
No problem guys, please ask these questions.
When a player is sent to waivers and is the claimed, the team that wins the claim is on the hook for the full amount of the contract including any remaining years.
When a player is sent to waivers and is not claimed, he goes to that teams paid minors. He then can be traded or called back up, but a players contract ALWAYS goes with him until it is up, even if that players goes to Japan
y2y contracts are the only non-guaranteed contracts and they can only be terminated in the off-season.
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Post by bigphisig on Jan 26, 2011 14:14:17 GMT -5
So I have no way to jettison bad contracts. If aplyer I am paying till 2012 retires for wahtever reason even If I cut him I am on teh hook for that amount. Where is that kept so I can see if my previous owner ever did that? If I cut him then and someone else signs him in FA do I recoop any of that like it was described above? The Manny example?
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Post by Greenville Drive on Jan 26, 2011 14:19:21 GMT -5
If I cut him then and someone else signs him in FA do I recoop any of that like it was described above? The Manny example? When a player is waived, he goes to your paid minors. He is never "cut". No one can bid on him until his contract has ran the full length. If someone wants the player they have to come to you. |
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Post by stevenweston on Jan 26, 2011 14:39:15 GMT -5
Why can't guys be cut outright? Is it due to the CBS site not counting the salary anymore? As long as the previous owner is on the hook for the salary (or remaining salary if the player signs elsewhere) it really shouldn't be a issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 14:47:08 GMT -5
Because unless a team claims or trades for a player with a "bad" contract he stays on your books. Many of these contracts are from decisions the owner made drafting the team or via free agency. This process allows for a more honest system when bidding or trading for players.
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Post by stevenweston on Jan 26, 2011 14:54:21 GMT -5
I understand that which is why the original owner should still be on the hook for the money owed minus whatever he signs for on the open market, much like how its done in MLB.
Thats why I was wondering if its a CBS site thing that it wouldn't be able to keep track of that money or if it was strictly a league decision
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 14:57:31 GMT -5
Cbs is updated manually , its a league decision.
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Post by Ohio Spiders on Jan 26, 2011 15:14:28 GMT -5
I understand that which is why the original owner should still be on the hook for the money owed minus whatever he signs for on the open market, much like how its done in MLB. Thats why I was wondering if its a CBS site thing that it wouldn't be able to keep track of that money or if it was strictly a league decision While it is a league decision, I also think there are limits to the salary tracking ability of the CBS site. I don't know if it has the ability to keep "cap penalty" for players that aren't on your roster. Even if it did and it had to be done manually that's a heavy task for 1 or 2 admins to do with a 20 team league with each team having on average 200 players, etc..... I'm sure it's just easier to make you keep players while under contract unless they are claimed or traded in which case is an easy transaction to move the player and contract from one team to another. It also adds to the strategy of how many years to assign a player. |
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Post by steelers on Jan 26, 2011 15:33:49 GMT -5
I understand that which is why the original owner should still be on the hook for the money owed minus whatever he signs for on the open market, much like how its done in MLB. Thats why I was wondering if its a CBS site thing that it wouldn't be able to keep track of that money or if it was strictly a league decision While it is a league decision, I also think there are limits to the salary tracking ability of the CBS site. I don't know if it has the ability to keep "cap penalty" for players that aren't on your roster. Even if it did and it had to be done manually that's a heavy task for 1 or 2 admins to do with a 20 team league with each team having on average 200 players, etc..... I'm sure it's just easier to make you keep players while under contract unless they are claimed or traded in which case is an easy transaction to move the player and contract from one team to another. It also adds to the strategy of how many years to assign a player. Agree. Plus the league is already complex enough without adding another layer of complexity. |
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